Interview With The SnakeBabe on Animals

All photos on this page are
Copyright © Isabel Snyder 2000

Q- I was just looking at one of your photos while I was waiting for you and after about ten minutes I finally notice this huge snake. Are you afraid it's going to squeeze you?

A- Not at all.

Q- Can I squeeze you?

A- That could be fun! But really, these animals don't squeeze for fun. Snakes tend not to constrict things unless they are planning to eat it. But many times people mistake their holding on action as aggression. Think about it, you weigh 80 pounds and your wrapped around someone's neck you have to hold on tight to hold up you 80 pounds.

Q- These are great photos. Can you tell me about them?

A- I cannot say enough good things about this well-known celebrity photographer. A real animal lover and truly a warm and friendly person to work with. I never felt more comfortable on any photo shoot as I did with Isabel and I hope to do more with her in the future

I did get to visit her home in California and she has the cutest most wonderful Donkeys. Yes, real donkeys that love her like a puppy does its master. You have got to stop by her site and see her work at www.isabelsnyder.com.

She shot some awesome photos for FHM Magazine for an article on Las Vegas Women with unusual occupations. I got bumped for advertising space or whatever reason, but Isabel was kind enough to send me some of my favorite shots.

Q- Have you ever been bitten?

A- In my early years yes, a couple of times. But not recently. Except for when Steve (My husband, not one of my boyfriends) was feeding a snake in a box and I didn't know it. He sprung up and bit me on my butt. I jumped so high I didn't even know what happened Steve just laughed the jerk. It scared me more than it hurt because I didn't know what hit me.

Q- Can I bite your butt?

A- Hmmm, I never heard that before.

Q- Currently you're a regular at the famous Studio 54 Disco. Does the atmosphere hurt the animals?

A- Some of my animals it would but the snakes are fine. Each snake is only on display for 20-30 minutes and then I switch off to a different one. Since I have 17 snakes, each only works once a month. Also, snakes cannot hear like you and I do. They feel vibrations similar to the thumping on our chests when we hear a loud bass from a speaker but its not painful at all. I get many offers to bring Parrots to jobs like this but I refuse. To them it would be painful. Snakes are built different. My assistant has been performing with snakes in atmospheres like Studio 54 for over 20 years and the snakes show no signs of ill health or anger.

Q- I understand you have about 30 exotic animals in your care. That's a lot of pets to have don't you think?

A- Yes, it is quite a handful. It's just so hard to say no. It's heartbreaking and shocking to see the sad state some of these animals are in. I think people can be unintentionally neglectful to reptiles because they don't whine and cry when they are in pain. If they could only talk.

(UPDATE: As of Dec 2004: I now have 65 exotics in my care.)

Q- Do you keep every animal you get?

A- I'd like too, but of course I cannot keep every single animal so I'll adopt them back out to good homes after they are healthy again. And I'm very picky whom they go to.

Q- I take it some must die?

A- Yes, reptiles can hide illness very well so by the time they get to a vet or me they are too far-gone to do anything for. Unfortunately many of the neglected animals do not make it. It's very sad, but I love animals and hate to see them suffer so I try my best.

Q- I know someone that used to...

A- Stop right there...this is what I mean. I bet 90% of people that have purchased a snake in the last year or two do not own it anymore or it died. I hope I'm wrong but you would not believe how often I hear "I used to, I used to..." Doesn't anyone ever keep their animals? This makes me so angry. A snake can be a 25-year commitment. Do not buy one unless you're prepared to care for it.

Q- How can you call yourself an animal lover when you wear leather? You should be a vegetarian.

A- I do appreciate your desire to spare animals pain. I think that is wonderful. I totally agree that all living things should be treated with care. I love animals, but I do not worship them. All the love in the world I give my snakes would not change the fact that they would kill and eat me in a heartbeat if I was their food. As a human I do believe that we are held to a higher standard and in our raising and eating animals I would like to encourage people to get cage free chickens and eggs along with range free cow products. These animals, from my understanding are living decent lives to a point that they end up in the food chain. I feel good about that. I pay extra to insure that the animals that end up as my dinner live full healthy lives along with a painless death.

There are benefits to living a captive life IF it is done properly. In the wild they would live in daily fear of being eaten alive by a predator. Now compare that to farm life and a painless death.

Q- Are you concerned that children will go to your site for animal information?

A- Yes, Very concerned. Which is why in my guest area I only post photos with content that is no more revealing than that which you would see in magazines at supermarkets. I go so far that my links page does not have a banner that features full nudity, which has cost me the links to possible customers. This is my choice and I am trying to act responsibly with my product. However, I did not design my site for children and my opening page says so. I designed it for people of legal age. That legal age is also the age I believe that children should be to own such exotic pets. Reptiles are not good pets for kids and I strongly recommend that you advise your kids to hold off on their purchase of a reptile until they are older. Your teen may soon be going off to college (hopefully) so who will take care of the snake or iguana? The parents who never wanted one in the first place will get stuck. You may have a 30 year commitment and he will be to busy with studies and most dorms will not allow a pet. How about when they get a new boyfriend or girlfriend. Pets often become the parent's leftover nightmare and get neglected. Youth is full of many exciting and drastic life changing situations, a pet is a voiceless ball and chain that will be forgotten too quickly. Remember that when you are buying a reptile for your kids, you the adult parent are responsible.

Dollar$$$$$The Internet is a great information resource but can also be a dangerous place. If you are a parent I encourage you to help protect your kids from having access to adult material and pets they should not have until they are mature enough to handle it responsibly.

Q- You are just using animals to make money.

A- I will answer this by giving you a little insight to my financial life.

I currently own two vans. Each has over 160,000 miles on the odometer. One is 12 years old and the other is 9. I keep these running at a rate of approximately 250.00 per month in repairs. This is cheaper than buying a new one. Although a new one would be nice I would rather use the money for my pets. Next is my home. I do have a large spacious home with 4 bedrooms. Three of which are used for my animals and show needs. I have a little over half an acre of land, which I do not have pool or lawn furniture as many people do since I need the excess room for animals. Barns are being built on this space with room for sun and exercise for the pets.

My tortoise alone has a 16 X 25 square foot pen just for his space and is still growing. I do not have furniture in my living room. I often sit on an air mattress to watch TV since I spent my money on a barn for the reptiles. I do have a sofa that is ten years old and has the holes in it from birds sneaking a bite when I am not looking but it works.

I do not own a sports car, as I would like. I have not had a long vacation away from home in years. I do earn enough for these luxuries as an entertainer without using the animals, but my priority is to house my pets in a way that is comfortable for them first, my needs are second. The money I earn with the animals goes to them, every penny. I say this for you, the readers to understand that the animals do not earn enough to support themselves. My magic shows and modeling bring in the money that pays for the balance of their food, shelter, veterinary bills, and of course my personal living expenses.

I would be financially much better off to dump the snakes completely but I love my animals and will work as much as I have too to support them as I would if they were my children. This is a choice and a commitment.

One last example I would like to share is that I sometimes lose work as a result of the snakes. I get calls form all over the world and I turn them down because I do not let my animals out of my site during travel. This is not possible on an airline so I only do shows with in a driving range. This makes me more costly than most magicians and I actually lose money because of animals. This is my choice but I will not trust their care to any outside parties.

Do not get me wrong, I do treat myself to dinners out a few times a month but not when I have vet bills that need to be paid. Animals first - SnakeBabe second. I am, however, looking into creating a non-profit sanctuary as this way the critters will not have to pay taxes on their earnings.

Update: In Oct 2003 I was forced to purchase a new van. It’s a couple years old so it’s used, but low miles so it should last a long time with no repairs. I now have a high monthly payment but one of my other vans finally pooped out on me. Keep those “Un-Dress Me Ups” coming.

Q- Does it hurt the snakes at your shows?

A- Great Question. I would like to share with you how I investigated whether or not to use snakes in a show. I will use Fellatio as an example. My pet snake named Fellatio, not the act. This is a common boa that I have used once a week for over a year at Studio 54. He gets throat cultures done, blood samples taken fecal exams and I have even gone so far as to re-create a dance club atmosphere in my warehouse so that I may use a stethoscope to monitor his heart rate and to this day I have no ill health to report. Not in any snakes. No signs of aggression or increased heart rate due to stress and no change in their appetites. It seems that some snakes can be oblivious to this activity. I get the feeling that sometimes I am just a piece of furniture to them. As for petting I only allow this on the lower half of the snake during their time out, which is limited to 30 minutes or so at a time. No one pets the top third. This is not for fear of biting but I assume that if my body were one long muscle I would not mind being touched however, I do observe caution in the snakes body language near the face and head, so I do not allow it.

I do appreciate questions like this. It lets me know there are people out there that care. And I agree in part that SOME animals should not be used in entertainment. I detest Circuses and Rodeos. From my experience they are cruel. I beg people not to go. Elephants, lions and such are not made for circus life. There is not efficient caging for them to travel in. You can check PETA's web site for more horrible details. And I just do not see how it is entertaining to jump a calf. I personally know people on ranches that tell me of all the broken legs these calves suffer.

I would like to add that I have had the opportunity to see the lions and tigers used here in Las Vegas at Siegfried and Roy and the MGM and the habitats are awesome. The animals are healthy, well fed, and have the best veterinarians money can buy. These big cats have all the benefits of the wild without the fear of attack or concern for feeding themselves. Not bad trade if you consider they only have to work a couple hours a night. This is not true with all cat acts. Some tiger acts simply let one die and purchase another. They are not as expensive as you would think. And babies are big money makers here.

This leads me to animals that do well in show. Dogs for example have a great time performing. They can be trained to the point that show time for us is playtime for them. Have you ever seen Dogs backstage prior to show time? They are all excited and ready to go. Jumping and barking and ready to take on the world. Almost oblivious to the audience. They love it. Birds find it fun too. However, this is not true in all cases. In a dance club atmosphere my birds would be petrified. A lot depends on the owner/performer who is responsible for their care. This is what makes the difference.

Most shows are cruel but I would like you to look at each case individually.
I think you could find a lot of awesome loving relationships between people and their pets.